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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 93 17:08:00 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1387 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Thu, 25 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1387 Today's Topics: 210XL Bearcat Scanner to read 1012Mhz? Alinco DJ560 sensitivity specs over frequency Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 23 November Ed Hare has no tie! HAM-server index update How Long are Licenses taking? PACKET RADIO & 800MHZ TRUNK SYS Phillips-Adams Code [long] Some TH-78A power tips Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Nov 1993 20:33:59 -0500 From: panix!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net Subject: 210XL Bearcat Scanner to read 1012Mhz? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1993Nov23.123957.25833@hemlock.cray.com>, Jim Knoll <n3022@cray.com> wrote: >I am posting on behalf of my father, a retired >news photographer who was out there in the action >almost every day. Since retirement, most of the >"action" he has experienced has been through >shortwave (and scanner) monitoring. He has listened to >the local police dept for years on 154Mhz. Now the >city hall has purchased 900Mhz equipment and have left >him in the dark. > >Rather than buying a new scanner, my father is wondering >if there is a converter that will double the upper-end >frequency capability of his 210XL Bearcat Scanner from >512Mhz to 1012Mhz. Has anyone run across one? Suggest that you post in alt.radio.scanner and rec.radio.scanner GRE America makes two such boxes; one for handheld and one for desktop scanners. They don't double the coverage range but downconvert 810-950 to 410-550. You can call them at 415-591-1400 or 800-233-5973. Frankly, I'd just buy a new scanner having 800 MHz capability. There are newer devices having much better performance than the old BC scanners. Again, look on the two scanner newsgroups and you'll get an avalanche of recommendations. -- Mike Schuster | schuster@panix.com | 70346.1745@CompuServe.COM ------------------- | schuster@shell.portal.com | GEnie: MSCHUSTER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:56:16 GMT From: convex!convex!horak@uunet.uu.net Subject: Alinco DJ560 sensitivity specs over frequency To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I don't have regular access to special equipment but one day when I had a few spare moments, I spec'd out my Alinco DJ560-T dual band transceiver's sensitivity over various frequencies. I used a Marconi 2022D signal Generator which outputs from 10KHz to 1GHz and a few feet of an extremely low loss Andrew cable. All readings were taken when a solid "FULL" reading was achieved on the LCD bargraph. Frequency db 130MHz 5.2uv 134 4.0 138 2.8 140 2.4 141 2.2 142 2.0 143 1.9 144 1.8 145 1.6 146 1.5 147 1.5 148 1.4 150 1.4 154 1.5 158 1.8 162 2.1 166 2.4 170 2.7 173.99 3.0 417.35 23uv 420 19 425 13 430 9 435 6.5 440 4.2 441 3.9 442 3.6 443 3.3 444 3.0 445 2.7 446 2.5 447 2.2 448 2.0 449 1.8 450 1.6 452 1.3 454 1.1 456 1.1 458 1.3 460 1.7 462 2.1 464 2.5 466 3.0 468 3.5 470 4.0 472 4.6 474 5.2 476 5.7 478 6.2 480 6.8 482 7.3 484 7.9 486 8.5 488 9.0 490 9.7 492 10.3 495 11.6 495.175 11.8 As you can see for the UHF range, not all frequencies between 400 and 520 MHz were measured. The PLL would not lock on anything outside the range I measured. Hope this is of some use, David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 20:59:42 MST From: library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!adec23!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 23 November To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY 23 NOVEMBER, 1993 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 23 NOVEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 327, 11/23/93 10.7 FLUX=100.4 90-AVG=094 SSN=069 BKI=2210 1221 BAI=004 BGND-XRAY=B1.5 FLU1=7.9E+05 FLU10=1.4E+04 PKI=2211 2221 PAI=006 BOU-DEV=010,012,006,004,009,013,016,006 DEV-AVG=009 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B5.2 @ 1140UT XRAY-MIN= B1.4 @ 1553UT XRAY-AVG= B1.9 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 1805UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2255UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.1% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1415UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 2155UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55358NT @ 2322UT BOUTF-MIN=55334NT @ 1841UT BOUTF-AVG=55352NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+075,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+133NT@ 1750UT GOES6-MIN=N:-060NT@ 1025UT G6-AVG=+096,+017,-031 FLUXFCST=STD:100,097,091;SESC:100,097,091 BAI/PAI-FCST=015,010,005/015,010,007 KFCST=3334 4222 3322 3222 27DAY-AP=041,016 27DAY-KP=4466 6433 3344 3234 WARNINGS=*SWF ALERTS=**245STRM:1900-2050UTC !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 22 NOV 93 was 38.0. The Full Kp Indices for 22 NOV 93 are: 1+ 2- 1o 1- 1+ 2- 2- 2+ SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY -------------------- Solar activity was very low. Minor B-class flares were observed from the three spotted regions on the disk. Region 7620 (N05E03) continued slow growth. Region 7618 (N06W71) continued its slow decline. A small filament located near N11E55 faded between 23/1557-1702Z. Solar activity forecast: solar activity is forecast to be low. Infrequent C-class flares are expected from Regions 7618, 7620, and 7622 (N14E48). The geomagnetic field remained quiet. The forecast coronal hole disturbance did not appear on schedule. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field should become unsettled to slightly active on 24 Nov in response to the end of the coronal hole stream. The field should then become quiet to slightly unsettled for the remainder of the period. Event probabilities 24 nov-26 nov Class M 20/20/15 Class X 05/05/01 Proton 05/05/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 24 nov-26 nov A. Middle Latitudes Active 25/20/15 Minor Storm 15/10/05 Major-Severe Storm 05/01/01 B. High Latitudes Active 35/25/20 Minor Storm 15/10/05 Major-Severe Storm 05/01/01 HF propagation conditions continued normal over all regions. The anticipated coronal-hole-related disturbance did not materialize on 23 November as expected. Yohkoh x-ray imagery shows that the equatorward boundary of the hole has retreated northward and hence should be less geoeffective than it has been on previous rotations. If this is the case, conditions may become only mildly degraded over the high and polar latitude paths on 24 November. There is a chance this disturbance may not materialize at all, which would result in generally near-normal propagation through at least 26 November inclusive. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 23/2400Z NOVEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7618 N06W72 339 0340 DAI 06 012 BETA 7620 N05E02 265 0120 DSO 10 021 BETA 7622 N14E47 220 0080 DAO 07 008 BETA 7621 S09E09 258 PLAGE REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 24 NOVEMBER TO 26 NOVEMBER NMBR LAT LO 7613 S12 155 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 23 NOVEMBER, 1993 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP SWF NO EVENTS OBSERVED POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 23 NOVEMBER, 1993 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV 23/B1557 B1702 N11E55 DSF INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 23/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 22 Nov: 0307 0312 0315 B3.9 0417 0428 0445 B6.6 0452 0456 0511 SF 7618 N09W47 0607 0612 0624 B2.7 0953 0958 1004 B2.9 1025 1034 1037 C1.0 1446 1452 1500 B2.5 2321 2333 0004 B3.7 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7618: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 (12.5) Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 007 (87.5) Total Events: 008 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- 22 Nov: 0307 0312 0315 B3.9 III NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: 26 Nov 93 00:38:37 GMT From: yeshua.marcam.com!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!lakeith@uunet.uu.net Subject: Ed Hare has no tie! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu eric.s.hellman (hellman@cbnewsm.cb.att.com) wrote: : Yesterday I visited the ARRL in Newington and met Ed Hare in his : office. He could not produce even one tie! (There was a rumpled : sport jacket hanging behind the door). Good for him! Let's see if we can get the rest of the ARRL staff and the elected officials to follow his example.. Personally, I never wear a tie, on-the-air!! Larry, KQ4BY ------------------------------ Date: 25 Nov 93 12:19:50 GMT From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!pacbell.com!amdahl!grafex!news@network.ucsd.edu Subject: HAM-server index update To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Executed: Thu Nov 25 07:19:48 1993 HAM-server updated index ------------------------------------------------- The following has been changed: Added SUPERIOR.SHR to /hamradio/morse Moved /hamradio/packet/mlhacker to /hamradio/newsletters If you do not know how to use HAM-server, send email to HAM-server@GRAFex.sbay.org. In the text, place HELP. Orders must be sent to HAM-server. Orders sent to KA6ETB or HAMSinfo are ignored. If you are reading this from usenet, do not respond to this post. You must send email to HAM-server@GRAFex.sbay.org. A new INDEX is automatically generated weekly and when files are moved or added. The archives may contain the same file under different names. If you should run across one of these, please let me know with email to KA6ETB@GRAFex.sbay.org NOTE: Contributions are gratefully accepted. Send to incoming@grafex.sbay.org Send email with a short description (so I know where to put it) to KA6ETB@grafex.sbay.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 04:32:56 GMT From: boulder!cnsnews!spot.Colorado.EDU!millerpe@uunet.uu.net Subject: How Long are Licenses taking? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Does anyone know how long liceses are taking to arive on average? I took my test at a VEC session a while back and I am hoping I don't loose interest before the license arrives. Who has a story on the quickest arrival of a license? Peter Miller -- =========================================================================== Peter M. Miller Home: 303-494-6990 Computing and Network Services - Small Systems Work: 303-492-4866 University of Colorado - Boulder millerpe@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 93 10:40:45 EST From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!toads.pgh.pa.us!cup.edu!alv3192@network.ucsd.edu Subject: PACKET RADIO & 800MHZ TRUNK SYS To: info-hams@ucsd.edu RE: PACKET RADIO TNC INFORMATION. ATTN: ALL HAMS INTO PACKET RADIO COMMUNICATIONS I am employed by the Fayette County, PA Emergency Management Agency in charge of the computer equipment. My boss recently asked about the possibility of using packet radio over our radio channels. (Commercial Public-Safety channels). Here is the problem. We will be upgrading Communication equipment to a Motorola Smartnet 800MHZ Trunked System. Does anyone have any information concerning the interface of a packet node controller to a trunked two way radio (Motorola Maxtrac 800). Due to the design of trunked systems, *INSTANT* transmit of a field unit thru the repeaters is not possible. Also if the trunked system gives you a busy channel status, the packet controller needs to know. I appreciate any help that you can give. Please E-Mail, Post in this group, FAX or write. Tony Alviar, KA3VOR System Administrator Fayette County Emergency Management Agency 61 East Main St Uniontown, PA 15401 FAX: 412-430-1281 VOICE: 412-430-1277 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 19:43:42 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Phillips-Adams Code [long] To: info-hams@ucsd.edu WOW. What a tough crowd. You want the long form, you got it. Again, list from Phillips Code + Adams Mods to bring it somewhat up to date. Not every abbreviation you know or will ever use is here and there are some here you will never hear or use in your lifetime, but that is life. :-) Enjoy dit dit ------------------cut here------------------------ Phillips-Adams Code AA all after GN gone RD read AB about GN good night RDY ready ABB abbreviate GND ground REF refer to ABBD abbreviated GNI good night REF reference ABBG abbreviating GP group RF radio frequency ABBN abbreviation GS guess RFI RF interference ABD aboard GT great RFU refuse ABS absent GUD good RG regular ABT about GV give RHT right ABV above GVT government RIG station equipme ACG according H has RJ reject ADR address HAP happy RKO record ADS address HB have been RMB remember AF after HI telegraphic lau RPT repeat AFN afternoon HP hope RPY reply AGN again HPN happen RR railroad AK acknowledge HR here RT are the ALW always HV have RTTY radio teletype AMT amount HVR however RU are you ANT antenna HVU have you RX receiver AO at once HW how RY railway APC appreciate IFN information SAT saturday AR answer IM immediately SD should AS standby, wait IN indication SDY sunday AVB available IMY immensely SED said AX ask IMT immediate SH such AY any IP improve SIG signature AYB anybody ITD intend SIG signal AYG anything IW it was SJ subject AX ask J by which SKED schedule B be JF justify SKJ schedule BAK back JGM judgement SM some BC because JN join SMG something BCI bdcst itrfrnc JR junior SND send BCL bdcst listener JT just SNN rst of 599 BCNU be seeing you K out of the SPO suppose BD board KD kind SPZ surprise BF before KGNS congratulations STD standard B4 before KMN communication STN station BFL beautiful KP keep STO store BFT breakfast KPPG cooperating SUGN suggestion BH both KU continue SUY saturday BK break KW know SVC service BKN broken LAF laugh SVL several BLDG building LG long SYS system BN been LIC license T the BS best LID very poor op TBL trouble BTN between LK like TDY today BTR better LOV love TFC traffic BUN bulletin LTR letter TFK traffic BURO QSL bureau LUK look TG thing BV believe LV leave TGR together BZ business LVG leaving THD thursday C see M more TI time C yes MAB maybe TKS thanks CA came MB maybe TM them CD could MD made TMP temperature CDRY considerably MDA monday TMW tomorrow CDX condition MFG manufacturing TN then CF chief MGR manager TND thousand CFM confirm MH much TNI tonight CFUD confused MK make TNK think CHC chance MMY memory TNX thanks CHG charge MNG morning TR there CHN children MO month TS this CLD called MS most TSE these CLDY cloudy MSJ message TT that CLR clear MSK mistake TU thank you CK check MST must TUY tuesday CL closing station MSY mostly TV television CLD called MTG meeting TVI TV interference CLG calling MTR matter TW tomorrow CM come MVG moving TWM tomorrow mornin CNCD concerned MVM movement TWV tmw even CNDS conditions N no, not TX this is CTD connected NA name TX transmitter CPI copy NBR neighbor TXT text CPT complete ND need TY they CQ calling any stn NI night U you CQY correctly NIL nothing UCN uncertain CTD connected NM no more UF unfortunate CUD could NR near UFBY unfavorably CUL see you later NTG nothing UK understand CW continuous wave NUM number UKN unknown CW morse code NUMD numbered ULY usually CY copy NUP newspaper UN until D in the NV never UPN upon DA day NW now UR your DAU daughter NX next V of which DD did O of VB valuable DDNT did not OB old boy VCY vicinity DE from OC old chap VET veteran DEG degree OFN often VFO var. freq osc. DFC difference OFS office VKN vacation DFT different OFY officially VOL volume DG doing OFC officer VSB visible DLD delivered OG organize VSR visitor DNR dinner OJ object VST visit DOLS dollars OM old man VU view DR dear OP opportunity VY very DT dont OPR operator VYG voyage DX distance OT old timer W with DUP duplicate OTH other WA word after EA each OV over WB will be EH either OWG owing WB word before EJO enjoy OWZ otherwise WD word ENH enough P per WDS words EQM equipment PAP paper WDA wednesday ES and PB probable WD would ESPY especially PBL preamble WDF wounderful EU Europe PBM problem WEA weather EV ever PBY probably WF wife EXA extra PC percent WG wrong EXK expect PD paid WGT weight EXQ excuse PFD preferred WH which EYB everybody PFT perfect WI will EYG everything PKJ package WK week F of the PLS please WKD worked FB fine business PLSR pleasure WKG working FER for POX police WL well FM from PSE please WLD world FO for PSK prospect WN when FO fast operator PWR power WO who FQ frequent PX press WRD word FRI friday Q on the WT what FRV forever QA qualify WTV whatever FRW forward QAY quality WUD would FS first QK quick WX weather FU few QKY quickly X in which FW follow QRO high power XCVR transceiver G from the QRP low power XJ explain GA good afternoon QRS transmit slower XMTR transmitter GA gave QSN question XTL crystal GA go ahead QT quite XYL wife GB good bye QTH location Y year GBA gv better adr QTN quotation YA yesterday GD good QTY quantity YR year GE good evening R are, received YL young lady GG going R roger Z from which GL good luck RCD received 73 best regards GLS girls RCV receive 88 love and kisses GM good morning RCVR receiver State Abbreviations AL AK AZ AR CA CO CT DE FL GA HI ID IL IN IA KS KT LA ME MD MA MI MN NS MO MT NB NV NH NJ NM NY NC ND OH OK OR PA RI SC SD TN TX UT VT VA WA WV WI WY --------------------cut here---------------------------------------------- -- SIG ------cut here---------- Chuck Adams, K5FO - CP60 adams@sgi.com QRP ARCI Awards Chairman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 20:15:34 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wd6cmu@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Some TH-78A power tips To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Some people have complained about the battery life on the TH-78A. I came up with these tips by checking out the power consumption under various configurations. In the case of power-saver mode, figuring out the average current with my DVM was impossible, so I ran the radio on a large capacitor and timed how long it took to die. These tips won't solve everything, but they might help. o The rig draws close to 2ma even with the power turned off, so don't leave the rig off with the battery installed for several days and expect full capacity to be maintained. o If you're only using one of the bands, shut down the other to extend your battery's life -- current consumption with the squelch closed is cut by almost a third. o If you're monitoring two frequencies on the same band, use the f2 button to receive both simultaneously rather than scanning between them -- the battery saver with two receivers will use about half the current of one receiver that is scanning. o You can make up a battery pack by putting nickel metal hydride AA cells in a BT-8 battery holder. A small strip of aluminum from the positive battery terminal to the depression in the top of the case will allow you to recharge the pack inside the rig. This will give you 1000mah capacity without enlarging the size of the radio, and NiMH cells have no memory effect. (But they *are* expensive.) -- Eric Williams | DGC Vincent: MC (B+S)t G+Y 1.2 Y L++ C+ T+ I+++ H+ S++ V+ F++ wd6cmu@netcom.com | Murphy: DS W+(B+R)t+R Y 1.3 Y L C+ T- I+++ H+ A+ F+ B-- WD6CMU@WD6CMU.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 93 18:33:06 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!barrnet.net!cronos!Metaphor.COM!henniger@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <TROCH.93Nov10111625@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU>, <2brb59$m7m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, <wier-131193221527@csci-wiermac.etsu.edu> Reply-To : henniger@Metaphor.COM (Mickey Henniger) Subject : Re: RS Preferred Customer (Re: Fun with Radio Shack) In article <wier-131193221527@csci-wiermac.etsu.edu>, wier@merlin.etsu.edu (Bob Wier) writes: |> In article <2brb59$m7m@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, cravitma@pacific.uucp (Matthew |> B Cravit) wrote: |> > According to the manager of my local R.S. store, Radio Shack generated |> > a list of all of their customers sorted by amount spent at R.S. in the |> > previous year (dollars, not hours ;-) ). The top 10 million? people on |> > this list received preferred customer cards. I spent alot, but they sent one to my wife who doesn't spend hardly anything. I assumed that it is a way to bring in those that wouldn't normally go there. (The rest of us go without being prodded.) Mick -- --------------------------------- | Mick henniger@metaphor.com | | (wb5von) | --------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:45:20 -0500 From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.ans.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.ysu.edu!psuvm!cunyvm!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1993Nov17.034311.24091@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1993Nov18.034401.1913@mulvey.com>, <19.edu Subject : Re: Miss Manners in the Novice Sub-bands? In article <1993Nov18.143557.3937@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote, in part: > > . If *neither* > party were Novice/Tech+ then I think it's rude for them to occupy > the tiny band segment allocated to N/T when they have plenty of > alternative space available. However, if *either* of the parties > were N/T, then they were obviously in the right place since the > N/T *couldn't* operate anywhere else. With the current callsign structure it can be difficult to know when you're calling a novice/tech+. I've got a 1 x 3 callsign, just like a tech+, but have had an Extra ticket for 25 years. As a result, when I operate in the novice bands, I tend to answer CQ's from people sending 10 wpm or less, just to avoid the problem of two higher-class licensees cluttering the limited space available to the novice/techs. Problem is, this discriminates against those novice/techs looking for a higher speed QSO. Dare I run the risk of being rude, Gary, and answer an N-XXX call sending CQ at 20 wpm? :-) Seriously, we all ought to drop by the novice bands to chat (with _them_, of course), and not isolate them. 73 de John W3ZID Internet: rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 20:27:21 GMT From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <LEVIN.93Nov24114340@powell.bbn.com>, <1993Nov25.133351.10311@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <2d2jq0$ddh@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Subject : Re: CONELRAD-what was it? We have a unique situation here on Oahu: All AM and FM stations are linked to the county CD EOC (basement floor of the municipal building). During any county or statewide emergency, broadcasts made from the EOC are heard on ALL stations - as you tune across the dial you hear only our EOC announcer. During our monthly outdoor warning siren test (first working day of the month at 1145 all 150 sirens island-wide are activated; state-wide too but I don't know the total number of sirens in the entire state - guessing at 400) (oh, we have a WWV receiver so we make sure the sirens start at exactly 11:45:00 - they're tone-activated on around 156 MHz) our EOC describes to the listening audience on all the bcst stations that we're conducting the monthly test of our communications and siren equipment. THEN we get a flood of phone calls: ``The siren in our neighborhood didn't work'' ``Hey, why did you guys sound the sirens?'' ``Why did you interrupt my favorite song?'' ``I heard you on every station - how'd you do that'' ``Can't you turn the volume of the sirens down?'' (120 dB) Most of our sirens are the Thunderbolt air-compressor rotating model made by Federal Signal Corporation, but we've got a few of the newer all-electronic sirens (rotating) (they sound `funny'); they're also made by Federal. So, we really don't have a primary/secondary station concept here. I guess you could say that every station is primary. A couple stations received money from the feds for new generators since we are prone to island-wide blackouts sometimes lasting more than 24 hours. Out of the 2 dozens or so stations at least two have the capability of staying on the air more than 48 hours. Oh, we get a real emergency at least once each year; usually either a hurricane or tsunami (tidal wave) warning. Jeff NH6IL ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1387 ****************************** ******************************